Rove avoids subpoena by fleeing the country.

Firebrat,...He basically said he'd bull@!$%# with them. The guy who brought the vacation news to the subcommittee, was the Republican lame-duck from Utah. Some one whose reputation is already ruined.

Novak, et al were pardoned by Fitzy Fitzy.

Update: Unless you've already heard, he's in the Crimea. Apparently, he made a call back to Washington expressing his condolences on the death of Tony Snow. This is not a drill.

Shame on Muhkasey.

Well, JFK got his brother for AG. Neopotism in full blast.

determined0a1: Shame on Muhkasey.

Well, JFK got his brother for AG. Neopotism in full blast.

How in God's name can you possibly defend these people? And this is a defense -- JFK made his brother AG?

Ugh.

Pros,

Yes, Sir, Robert Kennedy was the Attorney General for his brother Jack.

Sigh and rolling the eyes.

Yes, Sir, Robert Kennedy was the Attorney General for his brother Jack.

Sigh and rolling the eyes.

Is there a point to this? Did he do a bad job, or are you just spamming your b.s. again?

F*ckers

I am reading a lot of innuendos and words that should be consider inflammatory. This is according with the CoH of NV.

determined0a: I am reading a lot of innuendos and words that should be consider inflammatory.

Oh you are are you? I don't think innuendo is against the CoH and just because you think something should be considered inflammatory doesn't have a whole hell of a lot to do with whether or not it actually is.

This is according with the CoH of NV.

I'm pretty sure that neither f**kers nor innuendo nor your definition of inflammatory violate the CoH.

It's obvious you're most uncomfortable with this subject. But I don't think a thread that makes you begin to question if you've been backing the right horse or not represents a violation either.

Smiling,

Check Ms Cyprah's column and the crying babies for the cover of New Yorker.

I want someone to be held to the rule of law.

Only one?

Wait for your new President Obama and his cabinet. Pure like the Virgin Mary.

I find it somewhat hilarious that you are, in all reality, trying to relate a Senator that has pushed on huge levels of ethics reform and gotten them passed to the current sitting administration as though there is any common level for comparrison.

You're only response to the fact that the VP of the US has FLED THE COUNTRY to avoid being held to the fire for his grossly criminal part in this war, the state of the economy, and the illegality of the actions of the entire White House admin after 9/11, is to say "Hey, Obama is evil-er, but I have no proof."

You're starting to sound like a broken record Determined01, one that plays backwards.

Wait for your new President Obama and his cabinet. Pure like the Virgin Mary.

If President Obama flees the country to avoid a subpoena, we can address that issue then, and I would hope he would be held accountable.

But until that happens, why don't we discuss the current fugitive, rather than daydreaming about hypothetical political payback scenarios?

Because the Neo-Con Zionists hate this story and are trying to wish it away...

sushicat,...He will likely stay in touch through Bush/Cheney and their magic disappearing e-mails.

Well, Rove is on Fox News very often in several programs.

Coward, indeed. They're all schoolyard bullies who need to be spanked.

karl rove-- the cowardly lion..

With apologies to lions....and cowards

With apologies to lions....and cowards

And the definite article, "the"

All I can think of is the scene from "Fargo" where Bill Macy is sneaking off in an Oldsmobile and Frances McDormand starts shouting "He's feeling the interview! The suspect's fleeing the interview!"

I have visions of Turd Blosssom trying to escape a dragnet as he crawls through a motel bathroom window...

LARGE motel bathroom window...........

I wish that Obama is the President and then the table will be turned. I hope that all of you be patient for what is coming to anything that we see wrong.

"They'll do it too" is an even weaker argument than "they did it too" as it presupposes events that haven't happened yet. For the record, if Obama becomes President (and I hope he does), I want him and his administration to be held accountable to rule of law. If he or those who work for him commit crimes or other abuses of power I hope they face the full weight of the law, just as much as I would like to see the current administration face it.

I wish that Obama is the President and then the table will be turned. I hope that all of you be patient for what is coming to anything that we see wrong.

So Det you will just condemn him before he even gets into office? How typical is that?
LOL
No wonder every one laughs at you Det.

Pamela Drew writes:
"We can only hope he turns up somewhere that will nab him for war crimes."

Maybe not the only one, Pamela. The Red Cross sent a report to the CIA saying how many in the Bush administration were guilty of war crimes by use of torture etc. This is now international knowledge and there is much speculation that Bush, Cheney, etc. may face international charges for war crimes after the end of this presidency. Google it, it's all over the place. They better all start making their escape plans now.

By the way, where is Cheney?

Maybe that's why Bush purchased 98,000 acres in Paraguay. Other war criminals have found safe haven in South America and he may be smarter than we give him credit for. There are a lot of links for that too, but Kos has added the main ones so it's a quicker search.

greed, inc.: The Red Cross sent a report to the CIA saying how many in the Bush administration were guilty of war crimes by use of torture etc.

Bernard Barrett of the International Committee of the Red Cross declined to comment on the book except to say that the committee "regrets that any information has been attributed to us" because it believes its work is more effective when confidential.

You mean a "secret" report. First off, why was it a secret? Secondly, how is the Red Cross' work more effective when confidential? Are Americans not entitled to know what their government is doing? It's only when we know what our government is doing that we can hold it accountable and demand a return to American values. I believe the Red Cross is grossly misguided in its notion that confidentiality makes its work more effective.

I can't help but surmise that torture was pushed through this administration because of a spirit of revenge and the ugly addiction of power and sadism. There appears to be an assumption of guilt before it's been proved, and torture is a great way to vent a vindictive nature, all under the guise of national security.

The book, "The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How the War on Terror Turned Into a War on American Ideals," by Jane Mayer, who writes about counterterrorism for The New Yorker, offers new details of the agency's secret detention program...

It appears to me that there are no ideals left in D.C. except those of a self-serving nature. Americans do have ideals they'd like to see realized, but our representatives appear to not give a rat's ass about their constituents.

Yeah, I forgot to put the "secret" part. Thanks, Lisa.

Rove displayed arrogance for dismissing the Congressional subpoena. His dismissal of the demand for testimony reflects arrogance more than cowardice.

Rove did get his own message out on the day his testimony before Congress was demanded. Rove's op ed appeared on A13 of the Wall Street Journal . Rove's message? That Obama is not credible . HA! Rove thumbs his nose at the people's justice and continues to exploit his politicization skills.

Sigh, rolling the eyes and smiling.

Imagine for one minute when Axelrod will be the Karl Rove of Obama.

I have and I'm not sure I like it.

I have and I'm not sure I like it.

GWB had been lucky that he had friends that did not want his job.

Perry O: "They'll do it too" is an even weaker argument than "they did it too" as it presupposes events that haven't happened yet. For the record, if Obama becomes President (and I hope he does), I want him and his administration to be held accountable to rule of law. If he or those who work for him commit crimes or other abuses of power I hope they face the full weight of the law, just as much as I would like to see the current administration face it.

Ditto that avec plus forte.

And good luck getting det to think critically.

Excellent quote caffeine. One of the great ones.

These actions of Mr. Rowe should make for some interesting foreign country club cocktail hour conversations

Nah, I belonged to the foreign country club and the blue dress DNA took over all the conversations during months by all the nationalities where among I lived.

The difference is, one screwed around with an intern and the other screwed the country.

The difference is, one screwed around with an intern and the other screwed the country.

Our Congress screwed the country. They have the power.

Mathew B. Travis. Don't you know where you are? You've stumbled into the Think Progress Zone (play music) How dare you permit common sense and anti-hysterical thought to inform your opinion? This is an outrage.

Sorry Matthew....
Just letting it go is not an acceptable alternative...we didn't just 'let it go' when Nixon committed crimes when he was in the White House and the crimes committed by W and his entourage...go way beyond Nixon's wildest dreams...Nixon is giving Rove, W, and Cheney the thumbs up and thumbing the publics nose - for a second time - from the grave...As for the last of your 'let Rove come back, get indicted and get sent to prison...Here Here!

Matthew B. Travis: "on trip scheduled long before the subpoena was sent." Not to douse the conspiracy theories with a dose of common sense... but I'm guessing that no-one has considered the possibility that it actually was a previously scheduled trip.

If you or I blew off a subpoena for a "previously scheduled trip" I don't think we would get away with it. People do jail time for it -- well, we peasants do, anyway.

Don't make excuses for these people. They're supposed to be subject to the same laws you and I are subject to. Demand that happen and you've got a prayer of saving democracy in this country. Make excuses when it doesn't and you don't.

And if you actually think there's some kind of valid comparison to be made between the crimes of the Clinton administration and the crimes of the Bush one, I don't know what to tell you. I think you need to look at it again.

Where did you get the impression one couldn't be jailed for contempt of congress?

Mr. Travis,

Just enjoy the rants from the lsota.

Well I got here late, but that should have given Matthew time to answer to Thomas' link.

So far Congress has proven has proven Matthew correct.

Before a Congressional witness may be convicted of contempt, it must be established that the matter under investigation is a subject which Congress has constitutional power to legislate.

I seriously doubt that this committee of congress wants to claim (and prove) that it has the power to legislate on the issue of Executive Privilege. Karl Rove will die of natural causes before that would happen.

Mr. Ron,

We will have at least 4 years to pick on Obama. The new kid in the block.

ron,...I have to say I wrote the White House when he lost and I got a letter back. He was smart and had his heart in the right place but fell on hard times. He has tried to be a good ex-president. I think he has done a pretty good job.

The ICC would be the ultimate irony for the administration. Bush tried to spin the court as an invasion by foreigners into the American legal system. The same system he has done all he can to destroy.

The ICC should go after W's father first...for standing by and doing nothing for 8 years and doing nothing about the Aids epidemic in the U.S., which might have stemmed the tide of Aids going around the world and infecting upwards or 20-30 million people....Then go after W and Cheney for their crimes...or maybe simultaineously...

Is this for real? Where did you find this?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/23/mainsection.tomphillips

The rumours, as yet unconfirmed but which began with the state-run Cuban news agency Prensa Latina, have triggered an outpouring of conspiracy theories, with speculation rife about what President Bush's supposed interest in the "chaco", a semi-arid lowland in the Paraguay's north, might be.

Some have speculated that he might be trying to wrestle control of the Guarani Aquifer, one of the largest underground water reserves, from the Paraguayans.

the state run Cuban news agency, in my opinion, is not the most reliable source.

Pick one!

Sounds like something a true facist would do...Babalon is fallen, is fallen...If the United States does collapse I think he'll see it as confirming the rightness of the policies from his neo revelations play book... even as he does the work of satan himself...